they think video games are isolation from social. they think they're negative in nature. what we're missing is the learning process behind developing a video game. at the end of the day when you've created a video game, if you haven't looked at a video key sign book or how it created then stop the madness. you don't understand the educational potential we're missing by getting kids to relate to games. >> i just had the folks on from georgia tech. it makes you think about how to solve a lot of the world's problems. >> you don't understand. that augmented reality piece they are tranls feshl skills. they can show up in other industries. not necessarily about creating video games. it requires critical thinking, problem solving, hypotheses. when you peel it back there's physics and mathematics. we need to get -- the president has announced this national s.t.e.m. challenge. it's stemchallenge.org for