[ jackhammer rattles ] [ male announcer ] cascade complete pacs. beyond your wildest clean. our next guest holds himself out as a voice for change. senator mike lee is a founding member of the senate's tea party caucus and passionate advocate for his beliefs. we had a good time mixing it up about balancing the budget before. tra take a look at this. what i'd love to do when you figure it out, i'm sure you will, let's have you back on the show and go area by area and see if we agree or not. >> maybe we can put up some graphs and talk about the graphs, as well. >> we'll put up the graphs you want us to. how is that? >> that would be great. >> great to have you with us. i hope you brought your graphs and answers with us.