accepted brookings institution. i think he was a force of nature. often times forces of nature are feared. though have to be explained. 'tracted all of his attention. him not being able to keep the show is because he wasn't following orders from roger ailes. >> a hurricane is a force ever nature. but eventually it goes out to sea. you said glenn beck was a ticking time bomb. what made him explode? >> a couple of things. first lesson i learned in television, it doesn't matter how big you are, or how popular you are, your days can be numbered. you can go and nobody will miss you. i think that's what -- what made him explode is building on some of the other stuff, i think he had a complex, i think he started to take himself too seriously. he thought he had a god-given mission. he talked -- he became televangelist televangelistic.