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calls, excuse me, bs on the amount of bs that are always in debates. i think he'll be the greatest greek chorus. >> i agree with you. i think it would be fun in any way, like this birther dispute -- >> i never understood any of that. >> it was quite clearly getting him support from the hard core republican voters out there. >> i guess. >> i guess that's why he was doing it. also he was able to stand back and say, well, i forced out the true. >> declare victory and get off the field. that's what they say. >> when i had matt damon on, he was quite critical of president obama. >> i saw that. >> and president obama got his own back at the white house correspondents dinner saying, hey, matt, i saw "adjustment bureau," right back at you. which is what i call a zinger. >> the lesson there is don't take on the sitting president of the united states. >> when you saw matt say that, did you share a slight disappointment in president obama or not?

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