fringe populous conservatism. around which he would like to define the republican party. kushner keeps him in control and he trusts him and he helps manage the unpredictability. this tension will go on. it is playing out publicly. in the end, i think family wins, but in the end, i think trump wants to keep this balance. unpredict able balance. i think he likes to be seen unpredictable. >> jen, we have a fascinating window in the steve bannon's world view. there is a book called "the fourth turning." it is by neil howard and william strauss. it talks how america cycles in the 80-year erase s the 80-year erasea0-year erase s the 80-year eraseeras.