unless there is a recording. now, if there's a recording, then very simply, we'll know exactly who's telling the truth. but i think what's more disappointing than anything that i heard with the news conference is a grown man who's president of the united states, 70-some years old, playing hide-and-seek with a recording device. that is so unpresidential. i've never seen anything like it, and, actually, it's childish. >> so, john, i'm guessing you disagree. what'd you think of comey's testimony? >> well, his testimony, i think, is the turning point in this administration, because it's the great elixir now for trump's presidency. after 12 months of exhaustive investigation, this james comey ka buicky drama show coming to washington with mainstream media running around for a week with