>> the only reason i say it, you can't be for any tax cut as a deficit hawk. the economic theology, that the point is growth through tax cuts wouldn't work on you. >> i feel like that's a similar argument to what they're making on other things, which is, well, the cbo misunderstands the plan and it actually helps the middle class more. look, you have resources, which take some criticism. cbo joint committee taxation. but the resources that are universally used saying this is going to add $1.4 trillion to the debt and does not realize the middle class tax cut that donald trump is promising. on the other side, you have, well, these projections are wrong and things are going to be better and they're misunderstanding the bill. that may be true. if past is prolog, what we know is that it is very hard to simply grow your way out of these deficits, that all of a sudden growth will sky rocket