95% of the time, don, i'd be surprised if that weren't a wrap-up at least on a portion of the investigation. >> um-hum. cnn has learned also that attorney general jeff sessions met with mueller's team for several hours last week. what value is -- what value is in his testimony? >> pretty significant. so he was very active on the campaign. he was very active on the -- as the national security adviser for the campaign. and then he switched over to the transition team later. so he would have been involved in lots of those discussions. loo along with michael flynn, bannon and others on the campaign. so his testimony would be very, very relevant, especially if they were saying, hey, were you actively -- were you -- being the trump campaign, were you actively seeking help from the russians? remember we have all agreed that the russian attention tried to interfere in the election. that's not disputed.