clinton. is it possible that he could have political opinions but that his professional work doesn't have political motivations behind them? seems to me that may be possible. i know it's not as clean a black-and-white picture that politicians want to portray it to serve their purposes. it seems to me that might be the complexity here. >> david chalian. it may be complex, but you made it very relatable. >> thanks, guys. >> tonight we'll do a couple things. we'll take a deep dive into what these concerns are about, but also the concerns about fbi practices. we'll have joe manchin on. joe manchin reached out his hand and you celebrated him for it, and then he got a smackdown from the vp in his home district. we'll ask him how he feels now. >> always a straight shooter when he's on with us. very interested to hear how he's feeling about the vice president. first, we head to vermont. and go to our coffee shop. and meet dave. hey.