>> you're saying they're secret gun controller. >> you're saying they're bought off. what are they being bought off to a position they don't agree with it? is that what you suggest. >> do you think they're not influenced by the money. >> no. >> are you influenced by money. >> do you know where your bread is butter. >> paul ryan you think he is a secret gun controller. >> no he wasn't saying that why creating the straw person that's what. >> how it the money relevant. >> it's relevant. >> gets them elected. >> the nra supports him because he is pro gun. >> they have come around. >> i am looking at it that way. >> what's wrong. >> no it doesn't. because he is influenced by the money. >> no, no, no. so you think -- you think when he was 16 years old out hunting deer he was in favor of gun control then he ran for office and all this lobbyist money came to him and he changed his view on guns. >> you are create ago straw