right. this is not how whistle-blowers should be treated. >> i want to get to -- i understand that you're very upset and rightfully so because you feel like personally you have been sort of violated in some way or that you're being punished for no reason. but i want to ask you about professor kogan, the cambridge university researcher who create the the personality test app that harvested this data for cambridge analytica. do you think the information he collected went back to russia, christopher? >> well, what i do know is that professor kogan, who managed this data harvesting scheme of 50 million americans was going back and forth between london and russia working at st. petersburg university on russian-funded programs to look at psychological profiling and indeed talking about, you know, the value of social data in political targeting. you know, meanwhile as we're talking to luke oil about the