and all sorts of other tasks that they're being assigned by vladimir putin using the money they've illegally and illegitimately amassed in russia. >> russia is promising a very harsh response. "we would like to advise washington to get rid of illusio illusions." what do you think that response will look like? >> it can't be a symmetric response. whatever that response is going to be, it going to have to be asymmetric. as far as the asymmetric responses go, they've used up a lot of their so-called asymmetric responses in emotional outbursts in the past. after 2014 sanctions on crimea, after the 2012 magnetsky