so i don't think we should be surprised by it. i think it is worth remembering however that that exists in the political sphere. could is have a role if congress does anything related to donald trump? maybe. it doesn't affect mueller in any way, shape or form. donald trump can and has said a lot of things, but mueller continues to sort of move down the road on his own timeline. what donald trump says doesn't affect that legal avenue. >> and what rudy giuliani said, i don't think that affects legal avenue. >> to the extent it affects it and laura could speak to this better, it makes it worse for them. i don't know that donald trump can make his legal -- this isn't going to change the mueller outcome. he says and does things that may complicate his legal prosect partly sunn -- prospects but he won't make it more political dish -- >> could be influenced, robert mueller and his team, to accelerator slow down the