is that your biggest concern here? >> no. that's a little too bold. it could happen but i would say the odds of it at the present are quite low. i think more likely to see is continued russian intimidation, a build-up of russian forces, efforts to co-op, corrupt these governments in nato, to get them to give up on their values. to take russian investments and blandishments and demoralize the democratic spirit in eastern europe. he could accomplish his goal through what we call hybrid warfare probably more successfully than an overt invasion and be prepared to hand tell overt invasion and not be weak and invite him to do that but we haven't taken the necessary measures yet to deal with what the russians have in the way of real fake news, propaganda, their intimidation, their agents, the way they handle their bot-nets and