shaping the discourse of the united states. >> director clapper, the president has said that the reason so many former intelligence officers are coming forward condemning the -- taking away brennen's security clearance, his clearance is worth great prestige and big dollars. is there a truth to that? >> it could be for some people opinion it doesn't really apply to me or i don't think to john. i've been eligible for access to claks phied information since september 1963, so going on 55 years. there are intervals there where i didn't have access. that's the difference here. we left the government in january of '17 still eligible, but we don't have access. for me it doesn't have direct impact. it could on others.