remember senator from maine who has really held her cards close to her vest on how she is going to vote, she has made it very clear, it seems to me, that she's trying to get to question. she's trying to get to a yes vote. i believe she said the other day that she thinks judge brett kavanaugh as a supreme court justice would never vote to overturn roe v. wade, even though that was one of president trump's qualifications for his judicial picks. tell us what she is going through right now because i believe this is excruciating for her. >> it seems to be, absolutely. first of all, she is going to be either in her office or in what's called the hide away. some senators have small offices in the capital building glued to the television watching every second of this. we should note that if not for suzanne collins, this probably would not be happening today because republicans were adamant from chuck grassley, the chairman, to the senator