fraud and abuse. that's a garbage line everybody repeats. mitch mcconnell said it today. we're going to go after entitlement or safety net programs. >> let's listen to that. there's a key problem with that. but mitch mcconnell is right. if you want to shrink deficits, bring democrats to the table and go where the big money is. >> it's disturbing, and it's driven by the three big entitlement programs that are popular, medicare, social security and medicaid. that's 70%. hopefully at some point we'll get serious about this. we haven't been yet. >> we haven't been yet. the problem for the republican leader, paul line wryan is leav. the problem for republicans is this guy. we don't have that -- >> every republican wants to do