we had aircraft carriers. how do you find steam versus what they're doing on the "gerald ford" which is digital, if you can believe it. >> yes, sir. all of our supercarriers have been using steam for decades. and we find it pretty reliable. however, the electromagnetic catapults they're running offer some great benefits to obviously like any new piece, you have to work through the bugs, but they offer some benefits not only to stress and strain on the aircraft, to extend service life and other pieces. i have no doubt we'll work through that just as we worked through all of the rest and continue to bring it to the enemy when called to do so. >> when you do the new carriers as we do and as we're thinking about doing, will you go with steam or would you go with electromagnetic? because steam is very reliable. and the electromagnetic, i mean,