>> certainly seems, jeffrey, like a big deal. >> it is a big deal. first of all, let's just keep in mind that both the new inauguration investigation and this hush money investigation are being conduct by the southern district of new york, career prosecutors, not robert mueller's office, and what makes this significant, that is, if donald trump and david pecker and michael cohen got together and said, look, the "national enquirer" is going to write editorials and cover you and do great things for your campaign, that would be totally appropriate. that's protected by the first amendment. what makes this potentially criminal that they all apparently agreed that pecker, the american media, the "national enquirer," would go out and spend money on behalf of the campaign to keep quiet, that, according to prosecutors is a contribution to the campaign, hand that's unlawfulful it's done that way. it's not recorded and that's