expect, some sensitive matters to be discussed, will be behind closed doors. do you think that this -- what is in this report, questions that you would have about this report for michael cohen, is that something he can talk about in the public portion? >> good question. i think that certainly anything that would border on classified material or would be classified material certainly could not be discussed in public, but with regard to matters that are already in the public arena or that are publicly known, i would urge that there be full transparencies so that the public can hear michael cohen unplugged. >> so if he were asked, did the president instruct you to lie to congress, presumably that is not a matter that is classified, right? >> i personally don't think so. on the other hand, i would want