manafort was in contact with a russian agent. or someone connected to russian intelligence and passing polling data. this really goes to the heart of collusion. so you can probably see why manafort doesn't want any of that evidence to come out. i think that we need to remember that manafort isn't somebody who's been on the up and up. after being charged in d.c. and virginia. he then was obstructing justice and speaking of witness tampering. tampering with witnesses and now claiming he just forgot. and i don't know how hard it is to forget meeting with russian agents. i find it to be a tenuous argument. >> interesting. manafort is at the center of a lot of contacts with russians. the trump tower meeting. promising dirt on hillary clinton. if that's so i love it. and he owed a lot of money to