the president is threatening a shutdo shutdown. the president is demanding a ransom and that's unacceptable. >> are you and your colleagues willing to see another shutdown and stand firm as nancy pelosi said, no money whatsoever for a wall? >> we are prepared for a conference that discusses the full range of not just border security, after all, border security is about more than a wall or a physical barrier and homeland security is about more than border security we feel need polar ice breakers. in the homeland security bill we're conferencing, any money you take for a physical barrier where the president has upped the ante and demanded this money, it has to come away from things like ice breakser and customs officers and so we have tough decisions to make about how to do this within tight budget constraints.