fighting over the last bit of territory. but general votel very much taking a strategic, longer-term view about isis, it's capabilities, and what it can still do. have a listen. >> it's more the intelligence community is on this, they talk about tens of thousands that have been disperse and disaggregated from the areas. they're disperse and disaggregated but there is leadership there, there are fighters there, there are facilitators there. and, you know, they still have some access to resources. and of course they still maintain this kind of perverse ideology. >> reporter: that shot that you saw was obviously overnight on the plane general votel speaking on a very noisy plane so you saw headsets. but he says there are leaders, facilitators, there are fighters and the big concern is that they will come back, they will be able to stage attacks, and that