these arguments. i don't have, you know, a border security. one of the, you know, tremendous advantages a president has here is that he is usually the arbitrator of what's in the national security interest, what's an emergency. and there will be many judges, not all of them, but many judges who will say, i'm not second-guessing the president of the united states what's a national security emergency. >> jeff toobin -- >> anderson, can i get in real quick? >> yeah, sure. and the courts have -- to drive jeffrey's point home, the courts defer more to the executive branch in national security areas, in exercise of emergency powers, where congress has given them those powers on confidentiality of elements of secret -- government secrecy, than in other areas, than in environmental regulations or even food safety and so forth. this is the area or among the areas where the executive branch