office, that impeachment means nothing if you don't use the power and begin the process. so, to me, it's not a question of whether, it's a question of when. and probably right now is not the right time, but i think at some point, it's going to be inevitable. >> okay, so let me just be clear. so you're saying, you think he should be impeached and you think that there have been crimes committed that would rise to that bar, right? you're making that very clear, but you're saying, not now. why not now? if it's a matter of principle and you already have what you need, then why would you way? >> well, i think there are these other investigations going on. i think if you were a prosecutor, i'm not a prosecutor, but if you were, you would want to have all the information available to you to make the case. i think there's plenty of information already, but some don't. and we still would want to have a process where even if we can't convict the president on impeachment, we at least are able to get an impeachment resolution passed in the house. so i understand why we should wait for a lot of these