initiated. so i think we're actually on a course and whether we get to the point where there are enough democratic votes or enough votes to get a majority in the house, i don't know. i don't know when that will be. but i think we need to begin the process. >> all right. and i want to ask you before you go, you're also the chairman of the house budget committee, which is obviously an important position, given that we've gotten a budget today. the president releasing his 2020 proposal. he asked for $8.6 billion for the wall. of course, he's already declaring a national emergency that will get caught up in the courts, but nonetheless, he was going to get money that way. but now he's asking again. the last time he asked, he got a shutdown. is this going to cause another shutdown? >> ultimately, it could. my co-kentucky legislator mitch mcconnell said once, you don't learn anything from the second kick of a mule. apparently, donald trump wants to get that second kick. maybe it will take that to make him learn he's not going to get the funding he wants for the border wall. if he wants to precipitate