he knows we had the coast guard guy and the pipe bombs and all of these things. what do you do with the refusal to acknowledge the problem and what do you see in that? >> well, we have to make the statement very clear that we disagree because this problem, it did not begin with trump. it began before trump and will continue after trump. this is not the last time terrorist acts will occur, chris, so we have to not only call for this but we have called for a cordova community, that's what our mission is called, to bring it about because this has to be supported by the facebooks and the apples and the digital industry. >> they have to work as hard on this. >> it requires all the skill sets of the 21st century because like we said, today the boundaries are getting diffused. we're increasingly getting