momentum on the left not just to get him out of office but to solve these crises that he creates. >> has there been an attempt for him to grow his base? >> actually, i don't think there has been a real attempt -- >> or grow support, i could say. >> not in the ways that traditional politicians would do that. you would see them doing message events to try to work across the aisle. he treats his message events like consistent campaign rallies. he stayed in that mode of campaigning but not necessarily governing. that's why i don't think he's done it in the traditional ways and that's why i think come 2020 he's going to have a problem trying to take that message and bring it to more and more voters, particularly those democrats or those voters that voted for obama twice and then trump once. >> to me that would seem problematic that he hasn't grown support.