interaction with anybody else. here he is, coming out from behind the dumpsters and the thumbnail shows the path that he's going. this is the video that's right behind newcomb's. he's going to come from screen right. he's traveling eastbound and he has the backpack in long sleeves. the backpack is weighted down and not empty. this is a key point here, because -- pause for a second? on the thumbnail, you'll see this camera view goes to the corner, which is the corner of this building. at this point, we lost him for about nine minutes. we couldn't find him anywhere on the video. this is a viewpoint from heart mercanti mercantile. you'll notice the opposite corner of that building and when he walked. we saw the image of him walking the first time.