>> well, what he has said he wants to do is pretty simple, he would like to have the rules package they used during the clinton impeachment of 199 8 in which the senate heard presentations from both sides and then the senators decided that they needed to hear from some witnesses at that point. what he has said here, let's hear presentations and then we'll let the senators decide if they need more information. seems like a reasonable way to do it given that's how we did the last one and given that the democratic leader of the senate today chuck schumer supported that rules package last time around. he doesn't know, i don't think, when nancy pelosi is going to stop the shenanigans and send the articles of impeachment over. his preference would be to do this like they handled the clinton situation. >> john kennedy was on with jake yesterday, senator kennedy from louisiana, had things assessment, senator kennedy's view, he's just trying to be fair to the democrats here by not calling witnesses. >> if we tomorrow agreed with