columbus and the governor is a republican. from a union perspective, you have to figure out a way to minimize the damage. what's the answer? >> well, the answer is not to destroy middle class jobs there's nothing in this piece of legislation that creates one job for an individual. there's not any sentence in this legislation that creates one additional worker right. i think that there is nothing about this legislation at all that does anything to make workers benefit or the state benefit as a whole. you don't create middle class by destroying middle class. bill: appreciate you coming on today. next hour we're going to give you the other side, but carol bowzer represents the union in ohio. we will follow it on the fox news channel. it is an interesting time. thank you. in columbus. martha. martha: we have a lot of breaking news right now and we're getting new details
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