pawlenty. >> i go to portedman on the theory i think there is appetite for confidence as opposed to drama. >> sean: what is rubio's drama? >> rubio, he is young and untested. there is some questions about that. >> more experience than obama? >> that is low standard. [ laughter ] >> rubio, alan west or paul ryan. i think it will be portman or pawlenty or someone safe which he shouldn't do. >> normally the vice president pick actually matters but my ken important romney would be that he still feels very undefined for independent voters. this pick will need to define him. unfortunately i don't think port man does that. he needs someone who gives him a little flash. >> somebody that makes a lot of