he was involved? >> involved in what? >> he signed off on the search warrant. are you not involved? >> i will refer you to the justice department. you guys are inflating the subpoena with prosecution. i think i would point you to what the attorney general head. >> you're holding onto technical accuracy? >> i'm not. based on the reports and what the attorney general said, i don't see the conflict. >> what he was saying is they went after james rosen with the affidavit and the judge shopping, but what he was trying to explain is they never really intended to prosecute james rosen. that stumps karl rove. here he is with hannity. >> holder lied to a judge. he had no intention of treating rosen like a criminal. he said it to get the subpoena because that was the test he needed to pass. later on carney is asked do you