up under here. you power it on -- >> and the license plate comes out. >> correct. but they have an additional switch. it is up on the column right by the dash. it is an accessory switch. while they're riding, they can retract the plate. that's the difference. >> so they don't have -- >> that's illegal. they don't have to turn it off. i have to turn it off for the plate to go up. >> interesting there. we know the bikers primarily -- they didn't have plates that were visible and have this hydraulic feature. >> you can see that in the tape. not only do they have plates on the bikes, but some of the bikes i recognized the hydraulic feature, which is illegal. that and a full-face helmet. where's your identification? >> does that tell you what the intent is from the get-go? >> it probably does indicate they are up to no good. >> no bus. pat, steve, thank you for being with us. and another feather in the cap of lois learner? find out what the i.r.s. did after speaking out against obama