what trump is doing is damaging tarnishing the brand -- remember the mitt romney circular firing squad? and then when he finally emerged from it he had like his arm was hanging off, his eyeball was coming out. he's like -- >> now -- >> but why do you trust his conservatism? trump wasn't a conservative. >> listen every politician has changed their views -- >> no. he's really flip-flopped on a lot of things. >> but here's my answer to geraldo's question. you asked a very pertinent question. i'm looking for the most conservative person. conservatism works. with an inspiring message. he's inspiring. that can ultimately win. >> why do you trust him to be a efsht? >> the quinnipiac poll he needs to pay attention to it because his net negatives are higher than any other candidate. >> and mounting. >> even as his popularity mounts. >> he's got to deal with it. >> but sean why should conservatives trust donald as a conservative? listen i like the guy, but giving money to hillary and bill. he's been -- you go down -- >> you guys are making me a special -- >> you're saying i like him then you trash him. i like him and then you trash