he had a good beginning, right? >> i thought governor walker had a very good beginning, very strong and he sort of disappeared. this goes to what you were s saying a moment ago you get these long stretches candidates who have changed the dynamic of an 11 person debate one moment are absent the next moment an sometimes gone as long as half hour 45 minutes. sort of an odd dynamic. i don't think governor bush -- i don't think he killed himself tonight or did himself many favors and didn't come out on top of many exchanges other than the one i mentioned with ted cruz and doesn't seem commanding in a way you would expect jeb bush to seem commanding. john kasich i thought had a good debate the first time around didn't stand up much this time. he seemed to be straining to make his points try doing hard and i don't think it worked for him tonight. >> he surprised me -- i will talk to him here about a couple