>> once you submitted to a committee, you are locked in. when you are called to testify, it's what you're going to have to testify to. >> bret: if we are to take all the details in the 11 page report on face value, does it change the dynamic? >> suggests to me that the jared kushner piece maybe in terms of the lead toward some collusion conspiracy might be a blind alley. that doesn't mean there weren't others involved in the campaign who did things either kushner didn't know about her was not involved in. doesn't completely clean the slate but not only does he say he was not involved in the collusion, he says he doesn't know anybody who was. as close as he is to the inner circle with mr. trump, then candidate trump, you have to believe if it was going on, he would've known about it. if you knew about it he's not going to put forward a statement