in that state almost means being the next senator and the hills editor in chief bob cusack. i was amazed to find but i guess i shouldn't given what happened in the past in this state but when these conservatives gather, they can change things pretty quick, can't they? >> they can, i mean this could be a very difficult day for mitt romney. obviously he's the favorite but as you mentioned he needs 60% of the vote and these delegates are more conservative than the average utah voter whose pretty conservative so we're seeing claims of all remember romney care and conservative critics going after mitt romney. now he has enough signatures to actually even if he doesn't get the 60% threshold a couple months he would be on the ballot so in all likelihood he would get and win the nomination but we're not there yet and obviously, mitt romney wants to seal the deal today. neil: i think this is how mike lee came to power right? this conservative backwind, was
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