jonathan karl, abc news, new york. >> so now you have these dueling reports out there. republicans' main argument seems to be, well, if the nation's unemployment rate is still at 10% what has this really done? that seems to be the main point. the white house has to kind of fight back against. >> it's interesting, though, because as is the nature of almost any amount of money you only hear about the negative things like the turtle tunnel, you don't hear more about things like the money for researching a cure for cancer. $153 million went there. basically, they're trying to characterize the genetic and genomic changes that occur in human adult cancers. so you have to just hope there will be a trickle-down from all those jobs with more jobs. >> as always, both sides will play with the numbers. so we'll see.