for, not to mention the lessons we can learn from those around us who may have already solved the problem we may not have already figured out. that the focus. ruchir sharma called "breakout nations" is out. it's a pleasure to see you. congrats on the book. >> thank you. >> what do you see as the variables that will determine whether we go towards -- more of a renaissance environment. new solutions, new ideas, new ways to solve problems and what will keep us from them? >> i think it's already happening. i think the narrative has been to change, that in the aftermath of the financial crisis in 2008-2009, there was a fear westewe were going down the road of japan. we seem to be coming out of