>> joining us tonight now for the interview is democratic congressman barney frank of massachusetts, who has been a very vocal proponent of at least being able to discuss the military budget as a thing that operates on the same kinds of dollars that other things in our budget operate on. congressman frank, thank you very much for being with us. nice to see you. >> great to see you, rachel, on this topic, where you have also done such very important work. >> thank you. since the presidency, maybe not the presidency, but the rise of ronald reagan, the political common wisdom is democrats can't go after republicans for being profly gat on defense spending, but that's exactly what the obama campaign is doing.