♪ they can feel it all over ♪ they can feel it all over welcome back. welcome back. well, our panel is growing. in our last few minutes we're joined now by one of pioneering businessmen on wall street, ron blaylock. glad to have you on. >> thank you, reverend. >> ron, you heard magic johnson talking about the difficulties of business and ted banks turning him down, and he's magic johnson. how was it for you and other businessmen that have tried to in these years that the dream was trying to be realized, go into business and develop business as a minority even on wall street? >> as earvin said, it's very difficult. a lot of setbacks. a lot of nos.