as a nation, seriously. joining us, elizabeth birnbaum, director of the u.s. minerals management service at the time of the deep water oil disaster. i appreciate your time. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> have we gotten any better at cleaning up oil spills, particularly after the deepwater horizon disaster? have we had any technological breakthroughs in cleanup? >> there haven't been any technological breakthroughs, and really the technology for cleaning up oil spills hasn't improved much over decades. when we were cleaning up the bp spill, we were using much of the same technology that was used in 1969 to clean up the santa barbara blowout. it only removed a small percentage of the oil from the ocean. when you talk about the arctic, it's much more complicated to clean up because you're dealing with an environment where there is ice in the water much of the year. there's only a small period in the summer when they have clear water. and that makes cleanup much more difficult, and nobody knows how
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