years. and i have researched the capturing of carbon emissions. and i researched the scrubber technology put in to the tune of millions. where does this take us? where is the job killer? why couldn't they move forward to make more adjustments when it comes to emissions? i want to give you a chance to respond because i'm curious about where the problem is here. good to have you with us. >> well thanks. it's great to be here. first, there's very little chance this will actually be implemented. it goes so far beyond anything that epa has ever tried to do under the clean air act. i think the chance that it stands up in court are pretty small. that said, i mean, i do agree with you. the history of hj has shown that we can develop new technology to make sure we have affordable,