data away from the government and have it be held by the telecom companies. they're worried this bill doesn't give them the assurances they need that the data will be there when they need it to be. they may -- they'll try to move on some kind of maybe amendment or try to change the bill. the problem is there's no way that they're going to be able to get that legislation passed through congress and to the president's desk before the midnight deadline. so this program is expected to sunset. >> absolutely. it will expire and go down for a while. that's for sure. there's another problem. that is in the form of senator rand paul who said yesterday, "i will force the expiration of the nsa illegal spy program." will he be able to do this? >> senator paul has said he doesn't want to allow senator mcconnell to expedite a vote on the usa freedom act or to allow votes to extend the patriot act by a few days. that's exactly what he did a few weeks ago. and you know he hinted friday in south carolina that -- he said, i can talk for a long time.