he's still in the running for several cabinet posts. the job has not been offered as of yet. they are actually looking at jeff sessions for a variety of -- they are vetting him. they're going through all of the process. but they haven't decided which spot to give him. because unlike rudy giuliani, jeff sessions doesn't go out and tell you what he will and will not do. can i ask you -- meacham, let me ask you. you know where i'm going. have you ever seen a candidate for a position as important as secretary of state go out and try to corner a president-elect and almost embarrass him and force his hand as much as rudy giuliani has? >> i was a little concerned at first that he was shooting for