jump-starting diplomacy. if that diplomacy does begin, the focus would be on capping or freezing the program, which is currently estimated to have about a 15 to 20 nuclear weapons. it couldn't be about a total rollback of the nuclear program. >> gordon, we have heard hyperbole and hot air going back and forth with north korea a lot of our adult lives. in your view, how dangerous is this period right now? >> well, i think it's dangerous, because we have about a year or so before the north koreans may have the capability of putting a nuke on a missile that can reach the lower 48 states. continue have good guidance, but if you're firing at a big city, it doesn't matter if you're a couple miles off. >> a year? >> that's what the defense intelligence agency said according to "the washington post" about a week and a half ago. it could be a couple months more, a couple months less. but the north koreans are making