have enough to do a three-hour show live every day, but they literally work around the clock and allow us to come in and do this. >> make this possible. >> so, it was -- >> too much. >> willie, we told the story about tim coming in when we were at java joe's back in january of 2008. >> ten years ago, yeah. >> ten years ago. >> can you imagine? >> and that's really when the show started, when tim walked in and said, hey, can we be on your show? and we told the story, what phil told us, which is, he said the only advice i'm going to give you is, you know, your audience is tim russert. >> right. >> that's your audience of one. he's in northwest washington watching the show every morning. and -- >> what does he want to see? >> let that be your north star. and of course, willie, you and i especially have fallen short of that goal. >> well short, yeah. >> every day. but it is a good goal to have. >> it is. and by the way, i would add to that list the person sitting to