>> it does add significants to the reporting like this. you report these dramas when they're there because they do sometimes affect policy, personnel is policy. i think the public does have interest in what's going on there. if it didn't donald trump wouldn't continue to play the apprentice with his staff. >> what about the particular role of kelly, certainly other folks have been expendable to him, is there anything about what we know kelly does in the white house, the role he plays, whether on a policy or personnel matter, that makes him in trump's mind any less expendable? >> the relationship status is complicated but i do think there is a degree to which he doesn't seem expendable to trump. i think that's for a couple reasons. trump clearly respects him he calls him general kelly. i think he clearly respects the somewhat better order that was brought to the white house under kelly than previously under reince priebus.
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