believe roger stone may have been coordinating with -- >> a victory in the manafort trial is not a big victory per se. it doesn't mean he's innocent. doesn't mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted. it doesn't say that much about the investigation. in terms of obstruction and collusion, i don't think the ball has moved materially closer to trump. i think the greatest dangers remain, as i've said before, on the margins. on the borders. coming from mcdougal and daniels controversies. the risk that donald trump jr. could be in if anybody supports these accounts. what i'm looking at primarily is not a direct hit on obstruction